Re: QT 2012
Posted by uncle phil on
URL: http://the-lost-and-the-damned.71.s1.nabble.com/QT-2012-Zombies-in-London-Necromunda-basis-tp6629475p6680481.html
I haven't time to read the origianl thread since I am at work. Send me a link and I'll try and find time, riots and girlfriend permitting.
Relative ease in a zombie appocalypse would probably look like....
Level 1. Civilian Street legal self-defence and hunting weapons. Stuff you might have at home or could loot from a gun shop.
Level 2. Weapons available from a police station. Actually much the same as level one with a few light automatic weapons or sniping rifles added.
Level 3. Military stuff that would need to be looted from a military camp or industrial explosives from a quarry, for example (so rarely available in town).
I understand what you are trying to do with "Civilian" and "Military" but I think that the terms are confusing here. You are better off using abstract titles such as tier 1, tier 2, etc. "Civilain-MG" is oxymoronic, since civilians are seldom permitted automatic weapons and rarely would own heavy automatics even if licenced. Looking at your stats it looks like Civilian MG and Military MG might better be termed LMG and MMG/GPMG.
The P90 is a SMG, (if you cut through all the hype). It can be wielded single handed, but so too can many large SMGs and indeed many assualt rifles. A friend of mine of only about 5'6" once defended his tank with a Grease gun in each hand-when the adrenaline is on you.. For that matter, many machine pistols are generally used with two hands.
Is the distinguishing feature of a single-hand SMG that it can be used in close combat? That doesn't really seem fair for the P90.
"single loading grenade pistol type weapon". Most of the weapons I know that could meet that discription are riot control weapons rather than explosive throwers -the H&K adaptor for their flare pistol that can launch grenades being a notable exception. Again, very confusing to call this a civilian weapon.
"The difference between civi' and military shotguns = rate of fire and damage output.
Compare a remington to a Spas or AA12. "
Not much actual difference. The SPAS has some nice bits and peices but is functionally identical to a Remmington 870/1100, Mossberg, Ithaca, Browning 5 etc. They all fire the same ammo and do the same damage.
The AA-12 is one of the few purpose designed combat shotguns and does have the advantage of a straight-line layout and automatic mode, plus box/drum magazine loading, but whether that would be significant for Necromunda type game stats..however, such guns are by no means typical and most military shotguns are no better than those in the hands of police or civilian hunters (which is actually something of a scandal).
I think you may be better dropping "military" and "civilian" from many of these class titles and simply having them as abstract tiers. "You character now qualifies for level 3 weaponry" "great, I want a Jimmpy!"