Re: So, now you have to bear with me...

Posted by baph on Jul 26, 2011; 8:29pm
URL: http://the-lost-and-the-damned.71.s1.nabble.com/So-now-you-have-to-bear-with-me-tp6623407p6623618.html

Thanks, Robert!

Well... from 3rd to 4th edition, there really is quite a gap. I can't name every change of course, but the most significant one is the complexity.
While it took between 1-3 hours (for us) to create a character with 3rd edition rules, creating the same character with 4th edition rules takes, I guess at least three times longer. There luckily is an editor that is quite a help, to be honest but the thing is, at least in the German publications, that for character creation you need all four rulebooks (or five, since our former GM has all of them, actually) for, yeah, all the rules that are needed.

I have to say, during creation it WAS quite a mess. Because somewhen we changed from 3rd to 4th edition rules and had to change our characters the same way.
But later, it really improved some parts of the gameplay. Especially the fighting part. Though I can not tell THAT much about 4th edition rules, since we changed to those a few months ago and after 3-4 evenings I quit the group due to the reason that most of the other people didn't take our meetings serious enough anymore, so... most the time I played 3rd edition, which was quite allright, too.
What was missing in 3rd edition was decided by the game master. I. e., the skills a character had were very roughly described. Often when someone wanted to do something, like carving a flute or so, the GM wanted him to roll the dice, but we often had to decide through which skills "carving a flute" could be described so he could roll for that.
With 4th edition this changes mostly, since they added a lot of skills.

Still, I'm not sure what to find better. But since most people nowadays only play 4th edition rules, it kinda is decided that 3rd edition is over now. I liked it, anyway.

Oh and yes, it's no bad game at all. It's just that out of Germany it's not as widely known as D&D and almost noone ever wanted to play D&D...