Re: Space Crusade V’s SpaceHulk

Posted by MortiS-the-Lost on Nov 30, 2010; 3:33pm
URL: http://the-lost-and-the-damned.71.s1.nabble.com/Space-Crusade-V-s-SpaceHulk-tp3980383p5788510.html

Excellent stuff!

I've played Space Crusade before using the Chaos Spacemarines as an extra team of Space Marines, it was rather a spur-of-the-moment thing so we didn't have any special cards made at the time. The Chaos Spacemarine player was limited to the choice of Missile Launcher and Heavy Bolter for heavy weapons and the Chaos Commander was armed with Power Glove and Power Sword (We swapped out the SC Chaos Commander miniature with a Chaos Spacemarine Champion we had to hand at the time). For Order and Equipment Cards the Chaos Spacemarine player got to pick from the 'spare' cards not used by the other Space Marine players. If we do it again though, I will see about Photoshop-ing together your Chaos Order and Equipment cards.

One thing we came across during our game that you might want to consider is removing (or ignoring) the Lure of Chaos card from the Event Deck as it would unbalance the game in favour of the Chaos player.
On a similar note, although it make sense background wise, I'm not so keen on the idea of the Chaos Player being allied with the GM/“Alien Player” as this would make the Chaos Player less likely to want to attack the monsters and vice-versa.
I'd recommend allowing the Chaos player to collect points and earn ranks in the same way as normal Marine players and although they are not on the same side give them the same mission objectives (A squad of Chaos Marines might be carrying out the same mission as Imperial Spacemarines to stop them getting hold of whatever they are after – I'm sure you could come up with plenty of other explanations, depending on the mission)
From what you've written I'm guessing you intend players to take it turns each game to be the Chaos Marines, but I see no reason not to just have them as an extra option for what kind of Marines players can use.
Also I like the idea of Chaos Marines starting on board the Space-Hulk but this wouldn't work so well if they are being used as an 'extra' Marine team (especially if they are going to explode at the end of the game!), so you'd need to an extra Docking Claw – it might be fun to Photoshop up a corrupted Chaos Docking Claw!

If your looking to get even more players round the table or just want to give your players a few more options of what they'd like to play I'd recommend the following...

The official expansion Eldar Attack gave players the option of playing as a team of the enigmatic Eldar - The expansion may prove difficult to get hold of but I do have a PDF of it I could upload to the forum, then all you'd need to get hold of some Eldar miniatures if you and your friends don't already have some. (I also have a PDF of Mission Dreadnought too)

WD134 (The HeroQuest and Space Crusade special) contains shit loads of extras for Space Crusade.
For those who have access to the miniatures from SpaceHulk, Rules are provided for Marine players to use a Squad of Terminators in Space Crusade and the GM gets rules using Genestealer Hybrids.
If you have the miniatures from Advanced Space Crusade (or the Tyranid Attack game) rules are provided for a Marine player to use a squad of Spacemarine Scouts and the GM to use the large Tyranid Warriors miniatures in the place of Androids.
Of course the modern equivalents of  Terminators, Scouts and Tyranid Warriors are still available from GW today (but watch out for the larger base size of the new Terminators). But Genestealer Hybrids however aren't being made any more and are very sought after so they might prove difficult to get hold of. However you could always convert your own Hybrids, I recommend the current plastic Warhammer Ghouls as a good starting place.

Finally WD134 also included rules for using a team of Ork Looters as a playable force, again extra Ork miniatures should prove easy to get hold of.

Although currently I don't have a PDF of the materials from WD134, if your interested and can't get hold of a copy of the real thing I can put one together but it may take some time
 
Also a great, very affordable and still available alternative to the Space Crusade Spacemarines are these Space Ranger miniatures available from EM4 Miniatures

They are a little taller than the original Space Crusade (and even current 40k) Spacemarines, but like the original Space Crusade ones they have interchangeable weapons. The weapons can be used as the equivalents of  Bolters, Conversion Beamers, Las-Cannons and Heavy Bolters and the Captain would count as being armed with Bolt Pistol and PowerAxe (you could also convert other weapons easily).
At £2.50 for a Squad of 5 I'd recommend them to anyone who wants Space Marines on a budget!

I look forward to hearing how you games go and discussing further rules ideas in the near future