Bendy Dungeon Walls Review

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I know a lot of people on the forum love dungeons and are looking for nice cheap 3D dungeon pieces for their games. Well here's an offering from a company called 'Dark Platypus Studio'



Me and Rob discovered these sets online some time last year while looking for some extras to add to our 3D dungeons (for those not in the know Rob also owns several boxes worth of MK3DD). But it wasn't until a few days back I finally got hold of a set of Dungeon Life Bendy Dungeon Walls (thanks to Cat for picking me up at set from Orc's Nest while she was in London).

In box you get 50 wall pieces which clip/hinge together and 5 free standing doors. The first thing that struck me upon opening the box was how small the pieces were. To be honest I was never expecting them to be as large as my MK3DD walls, but I didn't expect them to be quite as small as they are: 1” wide by 1.3” tall (IMHO the pictures on their website and box seem to give the impression they are a little bigger, but maybe that's just me)


^the walls are about a quarter of the size of the MK3DD walls

The sets are intended to used with 28/30mm figures and the standard 1” = 5 feet scale, thus the size of the walls isn't too much of a problem with human-sized figures, but larger monsters such as Trolls and the like tend to loom over the walls, that plus the fact the doors are around 4mm taller than the walls can give the dungeon a kind of hedge-maze like feel and players could be forgiven for thinking models can 'peek over' the walls.


^ “ha! I got 'im now!” 

The walls are kinda brittle and break far too easily for my liking (I'd damaged the clips on 2 wall sections with in minuets of getting them out of the box). Also the walls (and to a lesser extent the doors) had quite a lot of flash on them and need quite a bit of cleaning up before they can be clipped together. But despite their flaws the walls have a really good level of detail and there are 3 or 4 different variants meaning you don't get the 'repeating pattern' effect you get with long stretches of MK3DD and Dwarven Forge walls. Like the walls, the doors are also rather nicely detailed with wood-grain, metal bracing strips, door handles and nails/rivets. The set comes pre-painted and as you'd expect like most pre-painting it's terrible, but it's not hard to repaint them yourself and make them look really nice.    

The walls are designed to be used in conjunction with a 1” grid battle-mat (the set doesn't come with a battle-mat but you can download and print them from the Dark Platypus website), but the thought occurred to me while I was mucking about with them that the walls could also be used with dungeon floor plans should you so wish. But be aware they are designed with the 1” grid in mind and thus work better with some floor plans than others (if the squares on your floor plans are not quite 1” the wall sections will go 'out of synch' and make turning corners and placing doors difficult).


^ the Heroquest and AHQ squares are too small to work effectively with the walls


^likewise the 30mm squares of the Warhammer Quest are slightly too large


^ D&D 3rd/Chainmail tiles work quite well


^ Billiam Babble's dungeon tiles work very nicely with the walls

one great thing about Bendy Dungeon Walls is the fact that because of the hinge-style clips you don't have to join the walls at right-angles to each other makes the set very flexible and very useful for representing round structures or uneven cave-like dungeons. In fact I got hold of the set with the intention of using it with my MK3DD dungeon to represent cave sections in my dungeons.




However one problem with the walls is that they can be a little unstable when placed on top of folding battle-mats which tend to not quite sit flat on the table (One rather clever way used by Marchomer to keep the battle-mat flat is to put it into a glass frame), the walls are also vulnerable to dice hitting them and players knocking them as they move their miniatures (not good during table top games which tend to involve lot of moving miniatures and rolling dice!) The flyer inside the box recommends blu-tac-ing the walls down to stop them getting knocked over and Dark Platypus also provide a magnetised version of the set for use with a magnetic battle-mat (similar results could also be archived by gluing Magnetic Strip to the bottom of the walls) for added stability.  

All in all not too bad a set and not too pricey either. Are they the next best thing to the no-longer available MK3DD sets? Maybe ... I just feel kind of disappointed with it, but Perhaps I've been spoiled by owning MK3DD sets. I can't help but think a lot of the problems with the Bendy Dungeon walls could have been solved by making the pieces bigger (the clips would be less likely snap off, the extra hight would mean monster couldn't 'look over' and the extra weight would make them more stable) What I think I should say here really is: if you want a cheap 3D dungeon go ahead and get Bendy Dungeon Walls (and a matching battle-matt), it's not perfect but you won't find anything better for similar money.

Here's the link to the Dark Platypus website:
 http://www.dark-platypus.com/role-playing/bendy-dungeons

and here's a link to Orc's Nest in London one of my favourite RPG shops
http://www.orcsnest.com/

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Nice review! And nice dungeon set!
Maybe the components are too little, but they are really flexible, this is a great thing.
I see that those walls create a non-continuous effect (it seems that the rooms have a lot of little bordering walls rather than singles walls) and I can perceive their instability from the pictures.
By the way I think this set could work better with some improvements.

PS: Orc's Nest shop is amazing!!!
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Over the next few weeks I should be getting around to repainting the Bendy Dungeon walls and doors before I use them in a game with my MK3DD sets, so I might have some pictures of the repainted pieces to post up soon.

One thing I forgot to mention: because the doors from this set are 1” wide they make for great double-doors when used with my MK3DD sets
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Excellent review.  I've been fascinated by these since I've seeing them a few months ago. (Maybe you pointed me there!)

Wipe-down battlemats seemed to have occurred whilst I was away from gaming (which was most of the 90's *grin*).  Any representation of walls when using figures are used is a plus.  
It's great to see them being used with floor plans (especially mine! nice choice - with the 45 degree piece).

 Mortis, I think your combinations of MK3DD and other scenery means that even some of the Dwarven Forge resin pieces will seem like a let-down, I reckon.
Are the ones in your photos re-painted by you? Because they look great.

It's interesting what you say about the height of the walls.  I remember having some dilemmas with my dungeon blocks, because there seems to be an optimal height for access to figures (walls getting bashed and shifting).  50cm / 2 inches seemed a bit high.  1 inch is definitely a bit low.  I settled for about 1.5 in I think, but it still lacked something and the doors weren't to scale.  

"Maze hedges"?


A couple of weeks ago I picked up some multi-fold rulers from Wilkinson. 50p each - mine were multicoloured, the ones online appear to be pink (shudder).  Perhaps they could act as a cheap alternative? - After being painted thoroughly in grey first, of course!  The sections are inch long, and folded around one inch grid very well.  The bad news is that the hinges break easily (just like the bendy ones!).  They won't look anywhere near as good as the Bendys' but perhaps they can be used as spares or for a massive smooth wall dungeon.


Possible side thread (or tag the query into my WHQ plans thread)-
Are magnetic battlemats very common?  I fantasized about printing my own plans on magnetic paper.  It would certainly solve the weighting issues.  
- Or do you reckon the growing presence of laptops and phone apps on the gaming table will make people scared of magnetic sheets?


Very useful review!
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Most of these pictures were taken shortly after I had first opened the box and was messing about with the pieces to work out what could and couldn't be done with them. I didn't have a Battle-matt to hand at the time, so I improvised using tiles from various dungeon sets I have and some maps/floor plans that came with Dragon/Dungeon magazine.
I found that (depending on the grid) the Bendy Walls work quite well with most floor plans, your 45 degree sections were a good test of the set.
Experiments not pictured included: Lining the Heroquest board (failed, squares too small), Lining Zanzer's Dungeon (failed, passages too narrow in places),using 2 of the doors with my MK3DD sets to make a double door (worked quite well, but needs a bit to go over the top to form a frame) and using the 1” squared plastic from the new Citadel movement trays as a floor (worked very well). I guess what I should also download one of the printable Battle-mats from the Dark Platypus website and try using the wall with what they where intended for.

Billiam Babble wrote
Are the ones in your photos re-painted by you? Because they look great.
No, like I said these are pretty much strait out of the box (I hadn't even cleaned the flash off), admittedly the pre-painting on some of the walls where better than others, but for the most part they don't look especially good and I think the camera has been very generous. When I've got around to cleaning up repainting the pieces I'll post more pictures.

Billiam Babble wrote
It's interesting what you say about the height of the walls.  I remember having some dilemmas with my dungeon blocks, because there seems to be an optimal height for access to figures (walls getting bashed and shifting).  50cm / 2 inches seemed a bit high.  1 inch is definitely a bit low.  I settled for about 1.5 in I think, but it still lacked something and the doors weren't to scale.  
The Bendy Dungeon walls are about 1.3” tall (yes I corrected that in the initial post too) which I think is a little too small, especially if your going to use large monsters in your dungeon or your playing with slightly larger scale figures like the 40mm ranges that seem to pop up from time to time (eg Rackham miniatures or the current line of Discworld figures) and if your playing with something like Inquisitor scale figures these walls are going to hip-high at best. Of course most people will be playing with 28/30mm figures, but please note Bendy Dungeon Walls (but probably not the doors) would be perfect hight for older 25mm miniatures.

MK3DD walls are about 2.2” high which I think is reasonably the hight the ceiling would be in the dungeon, I have pillars which are about 1” taller again thus it's assumed rooms with pillars have higher (possibly vaulted) ceilings. While realistic, the 2.2” wall do cause problems, miniatures can be quite hard to manoeuvre in corridors and players will some times forget about a monster or item because they can't see it behind a wall from where they are sitting, because of this I always make sure to set the dungeon up on a low table so players can see down into the dungeon, but it still happens from time to time. Of course the MK3DD walls are much less vulnerable to being knocked than other sets because they peg-into the floor tiles

An older dungeon set I made using plaster castings from a mould-set made by Prince August  (called Dungeon Builder – more on this another time) has walls just under 2” tall which I think is a good optimal hight, but the floor works on a 1.5” grid meaning the corridors I made were fairly difficult to move miniatures along. The weight of the plaster plus the fact I made solid rooms meant these walls didn't get knocked either, but the dungeon is very difficult to transport.


^One of my earlier 3D dungeon sets

I believe Dwarven Forge walls are also around 2” tall or slightly smaller, but I can't find measurements for them anywhere. I've also seen many dungeons made using Hirst Arts blocks with walls as low as 1” and up to 3” or more in some cases

Billiam Babble wrote
A couple of weeks ago I picked up some multi-fold rulers from Wilkinson. 50p each - mine were multicoloured, the ones online appear to be pink (shudder).  Perhaps they could act as a cheap alternative? - After being painted thoroughly in grey first, of course!  The sections are inch long, and folded around one inch grid very well.  The bad news is that the hinges break easily (just like the bendy ones!).  They won't look anywhere near as good as the Bendys' but perhaps they can be used as spares or for a massive smooth wall dungeon.
We have a Wilkinson store in town so I might go and have a look at these some time. The thought occurs that with a little flat-panel detail added the folding rulers might make for good Sci-fi walls in a similar vein. Also (thinking of your floor-plans specifically) you could print out and stick on some of that 'Stone wall' pattern you posted on DA a few years back


^ Image stolen by a elite squad of Goblins from http://billiambabble.deviantart.com/ at great loss to the Goblins after running into Billiam's Monsters on the way out

Billiam Babble wrote
Are magnetic battlemats very common?  I fantasized about printing my own plans on magnetic paper.  It would certainly solve the weighting issues.  
- Or do you reckon the growing presence of laptops and phone apps on the gaming table will make people scared of magnetic sheets?
The Dark Platypus ones are the only ones I'm aware of at the moment, but it think it's likely there are others out there.
Magnetic things seem to be quite popular in the world of miniature gaming, Hasslefree sell a range of “Neodymium Disc” magnets and it seems to be popular among 40k players (especially with Tau armies) to make magnetic joins on dreadnoughts and the like allowing different weapon combinations to be swapped round, I've been considering doing this with my Space Crusade miniatures and Mark RG has a Terminator-armoured character he's done it to. Also I once remember reading in Harbinger Magazine about a game called 'Nin-Gonost' which has a modular 3D dungeon held together using magnets!
Personally having grown up around 80's and 90's technology which was very vulnerable to magnetic fields I'm rather weary of magnets, nearly all the flat surfaces in my house - some of which are the tops of computers - have miniatures on them and I don't like the idea of them having magnets in them for that reason. But maybe I'm being paranoid, after all the speaker in my phone has magnet in it and that doesn't effect the phone, same with the speakers in my Laptop and the TV too.
 
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*grins* Yup, I think you're right - I'm still paranoid about magnets and digital watches and all that  - 80's brain washing! :)  
Back in 2D dungeon ... I can see I'm going to have to experiment with magnetic paper ...

I rather like that Prince August plaster cast set - very robust!

Ye gods - I must sort out my gallery - if anyone wants to use that wall I recommend you "grey-scale" it first! :o  Pink bricks!?
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Billiam Babble wrote
I rather like that Prince August plaster cast set - very robust!
it's not a robust as it might look ... note the little white chip marks all over the sections
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See more pictures and notes about my Plaster Dungeon here:
http://the-lost-and-the-damned.664610.n2.nabble.com/Plaster-Cast-Dungeon-td5647629.html
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